Converting a German targeted Fritz!Box Fon Wlan to an International version

[olnejean]

¡Hola el_valiente!
Yes, the setup works exactly as you describe it. I have no problem to connect the laptop over WLAN
It is the best solution for me; these 6 LAN connectors leave me with two reserves, that's perfect.
A question concerning the poor results of the FB modem: is there any possibility that a new firmware could improve it, or is it a hardware problem?

 

[el_valiente]

A question concerning the poor results of the FB modem: is there any possibility that a new firmware could improve it, or is it a hardware problem?

It is mostly a hardware problem. The FB modem is poor already from factory; it is specially poor if a AnnexB Box is forced to work as AnnexA. An improved firmware may give slightly better results, but the main problem remains.
Imagomundi recently reported, that the 7270 (and probably the 3270, too) apparently has a better hardware than the older FBs. But anyway: A router/modem specifically dedicated to AnnexA, as the Barricade, is of advantage in case of weak DSL signal ...
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[olnejean]

OK !
Well, my present setup is perfect, It wil be a long time before I look for something else!

 

[rikrok321]

Getting 7170 (1&1) to work with my fiber Optic LAN

Configuration of the FB:
Eventually I am wrong and the correct configuration is:
- Internet
- Zugangsdaten
- Internetzugang über LAN 1
- Internetverbindung selbst aufbauen (NAT-Router mit PPPoE oder IP)
- Zugangsdaten werden benötigt (PPPoE)
- Select your Internet provider (probably "anderer Internetanbieter")
- Type in: Benutzername / Kennwort (user name / password)

One of the two options should work. Refer to the configuration you had with the FB7140.
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@ Guru el_valiente:
I do not see the same menu options as you mentioned in your reply
I am also putting here the screenshot that i get under 'Internet' & 'Zugangsdaten' option.
I am still unable to get Internet working via the Fritz!Box 7170
And if i just follow the instructions to "Zugangsändern" then i get the other screen where it tries to find out the setting but then in the end it just fails. Note..that i do plug in my Firbre Optic LAN cable into LAN1.

 

[el_valiente]

I do not see the same menu options as you mentioned in your reply

To see these menu option you must first select "Expertenansicht aktivieren" at "System / Ansicht".
Considering the screenshots you sent, probably it is the second option which will work with fibre cable:
- Internet
- Zugangsdaten
- Internetzugang über LAN 1
- Internetverbindung selbst aufbauen (NAT-Router mit PPPoE oder IP)
- Zugangsdaten werden benötigt (PPPoE)
- Select your Internet provider (probably "anderer Internetanbieter")
- Type in: Benutzername / Kennwort (user name / password)

Note..that i do plug in my Firbre Optic LAN cable into LAN1

Plugging in the fibre optic LAN cable into the LAN1 socket is ok
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[rikrok321]

Getting 7170 (1&1) to work with my fiber Optic LAN

@ Guru el_valiente:
Here are the working settings of my previous Fritz!Box 7140.
However the option menu is slightly different in the new Fritz!Box 7170 besides being in German. Previously i didnt have to put any username and ID details for my Fibre Optic internet connection setup in the Fritz!Box as i dont need any username or a password. I tried to match as best as possible the setting in Fritz!Box 7170 (in this i do not see LAN1 option available) as the working one from Fritz!Box 7140 but still no joy :spocht:

 

[el_valiente]

Here are the working settings of my previous Fritz!Box 7140.
However the option menu is slightly different in the new Fritz!Box 7170 besides being in German ...

The settings of your previous 7140 correspond to the first option I sent you:
- Internet
- Zugangsdaten
- Internetzugang über LAN 1
- Internetverbindung selbst aufbauen (NAT-Router mit PPPoE oder IP)
- Zugangsdaten werden nicht benötigt (IP)
- IP-Adresse automatisch über DHCP beziehen

Try if your new 7170 work with these settings.

Is the 7170 successfully debranded? Which firmware version do you have at present?
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[rikrok321]

Getting 7170 (1&1) to work with my fiber Optic LAN

I shall try it again... but in the meanwhile here is the menu in Fritz!Box 7170 looks like....
How do i know if my Router has been successfully de-branded? i dont see any final confirmation message. I only see a warning message that the script that i am about to run is not an authorised by Fritz!Box 7170... so i am not sure how i can see if the script actually de-branded my router successfully or not?!?!
The current version of my Fritz!Box 7170 is 29.04.57

 

[el_valiente]

I shall try it again... but in the meanwhile here is the menu in Fritz!Box 7170 looks like....

The menu looks like this, because you did not do what I wrote in post #845:
To see these menu options you must first select "Expertenansicht aktivieren" at "System / Ansicht".

How do i know if my Router has been successfully de-branded? i dont see any final confirmation message

The easiest way is typing "http://fritz.box/html/support.html" into your Internet browser. This has been explained many times here in the forum, even in english (e.g. by imagomundi). Use the search function!!!

The current version of my Fritz!Box 7170 is 29.04.57

FW version 29.04.57 is ok, in principle. Why didn't you load the newest version, which is 29.04.59?
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[rikrok321]

The menu looks like this, because you did not do what I wrote in post #845:
To see these menu options you must first select "Expertenansicht aktivieren" at "System / Ansicht".
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I have had in fact changed it to the expert mode. I just forgot to mention in my previous replies about it. But i i shall double check it again this afternoon.As I am working today

The menu looks like this, because you did not do what I wrote in post #845:
The easiest way is typing "http://fritz.box/html/support.html" into your Internet browser. This has been explained many times here in the forum, even in english (e.g. by imagomundi). Use the search function!!!
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I have not had a chance to read the support page yet. But thanks for pointing it to me. I think the de-branding was successful. Becuase last night i also performed Telnet and checked the configuration parameters on my Fritz!Box 7170 and i can see that the firmware_version is avm in /proc/sys/urlader/environment

The menu looks like this, because you did not do what I wrote in post #845:
FW version 29.04.57 is ok, in principle. Why didn't you load the newest version, which is 29.04.59?
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I did apply the recovery image last night and that is why it was on 29.04.57. However now i have upgraded it to the latest version 29.04.59

 

[el_valiente]

I have had in fact changed it to the expert mode. I just forgot to mention in my previous replies about it. But i i shall double check it again this afternoon. As I am working today

Your setting was not successful! To save any change, you must click at "Übernehmen" at the bottom of the page!
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... and i can see that the firmware_version is avm in /proc/sys/urlader/environment

Ok. Debranding successful!
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[rikrok321]

Your setting was not successful! To save any change, you must click at "Übernehmen" at the bottom of the page!
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@ Respected Guru el_valiente:
Yeah i did figure that out and i did click on "Übernehmen" after ticking the check box for expert mode.

My other question would be that do you think that perhpas the menu options are little different in Fritz!Box 7170 than Fritz!Box 7140? And perhaps that is why i dont see the exact information that you have been suggesting me. However this morning i have been busy with work so i have not had the opportunity to double checked it. But i shall update you regarding this in the afternoon with the precise information.

 

[el_valiente]

My other question would be that do you think that perhpas the menu options are little different in Fritz!Box 7170 than Fritz!Box 7140? And perhaps that is why i dont see the exact information that you have been suggesting me ...

The menu options in "Internet / Zugangsdaten" are identical in FB7170 and FB7140.
The screenshot you sent looks like having "Expertenmodus" inactivated.
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[rikrok321]

The menu options in "Internet / Zugangsdaten" are identical in FB7170 and FB7140.
The screenshot you sent looks like having "Expertenmodus" inactivated.
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So do you think that i need to reboot the router after applying the "Expertenmodus" and after clicking "Übernehmen"?

 

[el_valiente]

So do you think that i need to reboot the router after applying the "Expertenmodus" and after clicking "Übernehmen"?

No, reboot is not necessary.
I think that somewhat went wrong when you made the setting. Check it.
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[rikrok321]

Fritz!Box 7170 (1&1 Brand) does not show LAN1 setting?

@ Guru el_valiente:
I did buy another Fritz!Box 7170 for my friend and this one is not 1&1 brand. This one is exactly the same in looks and colour as the Fritz!Box 7140. I did perform the Image recovery procedure and the upgraded it with 29.04.59. With this FB and i was able to see the option with LAN1 as you mentioned and the internet connection works.
However the router that i bought with 1&1 brand i do apply exactly the same procedure and it does not give me the same option for LAN1 with Expert Mode enabled :spocht:.
I have attached the 2-screenshots one when the Expert Mode is activated and the other one when the Expert Mode is deactivated. I also later on converted Fritz!Box 7170 (1&1 brand) with an English ROM and i see the same menu options in English (no LAN1 option) when the Expert mode is activated.

After this i ran a check (# more /proc/sys/urlader/environment) on both FB 7170 (one 1&1 and other non-1&1 brand) and i can see the following significant differences:

[FONT=&quot]Working FB 7170[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
HWRevision 94.1.1.0
bootloaderVersion 1.153
prompt Eva_AVM
firmware_info 29.04.59

Not Working FB 7170 - (1&1 brand)
HWRevision 94
bootloaderVersion 1.124
prompt AVM_Ar7
firmware_info 29.04.59[/FONT]

To me it seems to be some hardware issue. Do you have any suggestions or procedures about how can i overcome these issues please?

 

[el_valiente]

However the router that i bought with 1&1 brand i do apply exactly the same procedure and it does not give me the same option for LAN1 with Expert Mode enabled ...

The hardware of both 7170 (1&1 and avm) should be identical!
Question: Are the two FB7170 V1 or V2?
V1 has a slightly different hardware than V2. V1 is recognized because of having one single analogue phone socket, while V2 has 2 and 1/2 of them (see www.router-faq.de)

My experience is that a debranded FB behaves identically as a original avm one.
Could it be that the debranding failed? Try again, loading "fritz_as_avm_newer.tar" once more.

If it still doesn't work, post a support listing! http://191.168.178.1/html/support.html
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[rikrok321]

Fritz!Box 7170 (1&1 Brand) does not show LAN1 setting?

Question: Are the two FB7170 V1 or V2?
V1 has a slightly different hardware than V2. V1 is recognized because of having one single analogue phone socket, while V2 has 2 and 1/2 of them (see www.router-faq.de)
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I am not sure how to check the version V1 or V2? Unfortunately my German is not so good can you please kindly tell me where exactly & what exactly i am looking on this website?

Could it be that the debranding failed? Try again, loading "fritz_as_avm_newer.tar" once more.
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I am working during the day but i shall double-check it this evening. However i have performed debranding by running the script and also i have done it manually by:
echo "firmware_version avm" > /proc/sys/urlader/environment
Aterwards the "avm" parameters in the /proc/sys/urlader/environment for both FB-7170 routers are the same. so i feel that it has updated the the 1&1 router with correct de-branding parameter "avm"

 

[el_valiente]

... can you please kindly tell me where exactly & what exactly i am looking on this website?

Select "Router Anschlussbilder" (at the left, in "Hardware") and click on the FB-type - you will see a picture of the sockets at the rear side of the FB
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... so i feel that it has updated the the 1&1 router with correct de-branding parameter "avm"

I do feel the same. Post the support file.
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[rikrok321]

Fritz!Box 7170 (1&1 Brand) does not show LAN1 setting?

Ok thanks!

Yeah the router that is orginally 1&1 brand (Black colour) is V1 & the non-1&1 is V2.

Here is the full outputs from both FB-7170 routers:

Friz!Box 7170 -V1 (NOT-WORKING: Originally 1&1 brand)
# more /proc/sys/urlader/environment
HWRevision 94
ProductID Fritz_Box_7170
SerialNumber 0000000000000000
annex B
autoload yes
bootloaderVersion 1.124
bootserport tty0
bluetooth 00:04:0E:FF:FF:07
cpufrequency 211968000
firstfreeaddress 0x946AD0F0
firmware_version avm
firmware_info 29.04.59
flashsize 0x00800000
jffs2_size 12
maca 00:15:0C:42:F5:0D
macb 00:15:0C:42:F5:0E
macwlan 00:15:0C:42:F5:0F
macdsl 00:15:0C:42:F5:10
memsize 0x02000000
modetty0 38400,n,8,1,hw
modetty1 38400,n,8,1,hw
mtd0 0x90000000,0x90000000
mtd1 0x90010000,0x90780000
mtd2 0x90000000,0x90010000
mtd3 0x90780000,0x907C0000
mtd4 0x907C0000,0x90800000
my_ipaddress 192.168.178.1
prompt AVM_Ar7
ptest
reserved 00:04:0E:FF:FF:00
req_fullrate_freq 125000000
sysfrequency 125000000
urlader-version 1124
usb_board_mac 00:15:0C:42:F5:11
usb_rndis_mac 00:15:0C:42:F5:12
usb_device_id 0x3D00
usb_revision_id 0x0200
usb_device_name USB DSL Device
usb_manufacturer_name AVM
wlan_key 1107051658871926
wlan_cal 000D,03F2,0012,00E1,010A,00E5,010A,02F0,02E1
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Fritz!Box 7170 -V2 (WORKING- NON-1&1)
# more /proc/sys/urlader/environment
HWRevision 94.1.1.0
ProductID Fritz_Box_7170
SerialNumber 0000000000000000
annex B
autoload yes
bootloaderVersion 1.153
bootserport tty0
bluetooth 00:04:0E:FF:FF:07
cpufrequency 211968000
firstfreeaddress 0x946AE530
firmware_version avm
firmware_info 29.04.59
flashsize 0x00800000
jffs2_size 12
maca 00:1A:4F:0F:05:82
macb 00:1A:4F:0F:05:83
macwlan 00:1A:4F:01:A3:14
macdsl 00:1A:4F:0F:05:84
memsize 0x02000000
modetty0 38400,n,8,1,hw
modetty1 38400,n,8,1,hw
mtd0 0x90000000,0x90000000
mtd1 0x90010000,0x90780000
mtd2 0x90000000,0x90010000
mtd3 0x90780000,0x907C0000
mtd4 0x907C0000,0x90800000
my_ipaddress 192.168.178.1
prompt Eva_AVM
ptest
reserved 00:04:0E:FF:FF:00
req_fullrate_freq 125000000
sysfrequency 125000000
urlader-version 1153
usb_board_mac 00:1A:4F:0F:05:85
usb_rndis_mac 00:1A:4F:0F:05:86
usb_device_id 0x3D00
usb_revision_id 0x0200
usb_device_name USB DSL Device
usb_manufacturer_name AVM
wlan_key 1986670275297537
wlan_cal 0020,0010,0012,00F6,010A,00F6,010A,0396,0360
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