Converting a German targeted Fritz!Box Fon Wlan to an International version

[el_valiente]

But how shell I assign them to the "real" network, once I use the FB as my router?
And If I disconnect the DreamBox, my wife will divorce me on the spot !!!

@olnejean:
What shell I recommend you? Is divorce a menace or a promise?

But divorce will not be a theme at all.
- Presently the IPs are automatically assigned by the DHCP server of the Barricade
- With option 1 (Barricade transparent) the IPs will be assigned by the DHCP-server of the FB
- With option 2 (FB with DHCP-server inactivated) the IPs will be assigned by the DHCP-server of the Barricade

So, where is the problem?
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[olnejean]

Well, if I choose option 2 (which I prefer), it will not be difficult to try.
But you will allow me to do this tomorrow ... I have spent the whole day filling my swimming pool (not with water, with rubble, I do way with it, too much work and money for too few hours per year!). So I have been pushing wheelbarrows all day, and I am no professional!

 

[olnejean]

I have now recovered the FB and I have tried to connect it through Barricade.
Without success.
I have made a set of screenshots showing barricade's parameters.
They might be useful ...

 

[el_valiente]

I have made a set of screenshots showing barricade's parameters.
They might be useful ...

@olnejean:

First, I want to remember you, that I suggest to start with option 1, which is "Barricade settled to transparent". I suggest this, even if you prefer option 2, because option 1 is easier to configurate. Later on, with option 1 working, you may easily switch to option 2.

But anyway, let's go to option 2. The Barricade seems to have an intuitive menue, easy to use. The configuration looks fine, and the FB should work in mode "Internet acces via LAN 1", if connected to the Barricade.
I find only one possible source of error: The IP Adress Pool of the DHCP Server at the Barricade starts with 192.168.2.2 and ends with 192.168.2.20 (in LAN settings"). With this setting, the Barricade probably assignes 192.168.2.2 as IP to the FB. But the FB works only with IPs equal or greater than xxx.xxx.xxx.3 !
So try to change the IP Adress Pool of your Barricade. I suggest to select higher IPs. Set the lowest IP of the pool to "192.168.2.70" and the highest one to "192.168.2.79". Done this, the Barricade's DHCP server will assign IPs between 192.168.2.70 and 192.168.2.79 - and the FB should work perfectly.

Try it - and let me know.

Another suggestion: If the FB continues to fail, change the Barricade's IP to 192.168.178.254 (also in "LAN settings") and try again. Naturally, you must change the IP Adress Pool to 192.168.178.70 - 192.168.178.79, too.
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[olnejean]

I now remember that "a range of 20 addresses" had been installed, therefore 192.168.2.1 to 192.168.2.20.
So I shall modify them to 192.168.2.71 to 192.168.2.90.
You suggest:
"change the Barricade's IP to 192.168.178.254 (also in "LAN settings")"...
At what position?

 

[el_valiente]

You suggest:
"change the Barricade's IP to 192.168.178.254 (also in "LAN settings")"...
At what position?

@olnejean:

Please, read carefully what I write!

You added 3 IPs in red at your screenshot, asking if these would be the right settings. They are not!

The first IP in red is the IP-Adress of the Barricade! Don't change it to 192.168.2.71!
For the first trial let it as it is, namely "192.168.2.1"
For the second trial set it to "192.168.178.254"

The second IP in red is the lowest IP of the DHCP's IP-pool! The DHCP server assigns the IPs as defined in the IP-pool to the PCs connected!
For the first trial set it to "192.168.2.70"
For the second trial set it to "192.168.178.70"

The third IP in red is the highest IP of the DHCP's IP-pool!
For the first trial set it to "192.168.2.79" (that means, the DHCP-server controls up to 10 PCs: from ...70 to ...79)
For the second trial set it to "192.168.278.79"


Comment: There is no need to have 20 IP adresses in the pool, 10 should be enough for you. Anyway, you may increase the DHCP's IP-pool by increasing the third IP in red, eg. "192.168.2.90" resp. "192.168.178.90". That would be up to 21 PCs controlled by the DHCP-server (from ...70 to ...90)
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[olnejean]

OK .. !!mañana por la mañana!!
Estoy casi durmiendo ...
Si, pero, insistes para la prima solución, OK, dame los parametros.

 

[el_valiente]

@olnejean:

Concerning the configuration of Barricade and FB for option 1 (Barricade transparent) see my posts #689 #731 #741 #746 #774 in this thread.

It could be useful If you knew some basics about computer networks. The manual of your FB 3270 contains a glossary explaining abbreviations and networks settings. You should read that.
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[olnejean]

@el_valiente:
I am presently stuck with the installation: I have certainly made a false move; the installation programme of the FB does not detect the connection to the PC any more.
I shall made yet another recovery, and restart afresh, after having read and "absorbed" again your instructions as well as those from imagomundi.
I shall cool down a bit till tomorrow...

 

[olnejean]

@el_valiente
Remember my reason to prefer using Barricade as main router and FB as secondary: I have altogether 4 LAN connections, three PCs and the DreamBox, and I only require WiFi for my laptop.
With the FB acting as main router and Barricade turned transparent, I shall by one LAN link short...
So I am working - slowly – at the IP Address Pool of the DHCP Server on Barricade.
You tell me "try to change the IP Address Pool of your Barricade. I suggest selecting higher IPs. Set the lowest IP of the pool to "192.168.2.70" and the highest one to "192.168.2.79".
You will be surprised: I feel I am able to do that.
But I have one question: what will happen to the existing network? In other words, shall I have to create a new network linking the three PCs and the DreamBox ?
Once these points will be settled, I shall need connecting the FB.
I access it presently by a straight connection to my main PC, without using the network.
But I cannot use the command fritz.box, as it has no access to DSL.
What do you suggest?

 

[el_valiente]

You will be surprised: I feel I am able to do that.

@olnejean:

No, I am not surprised, you should be able to do that.
But I am surprised that, after 2 weeks of asking questions, you did not advance at all.
To collect information is a good strategy, but sometimes you must become active.
So, start changing your configuration, because otherwise you will never progress.

Here are the answers to your questions:

1.

.. what will happen to the existing network?

If you change the IP's at your router, nothing happens to your network. You must understand the function of the DHCP server: It builds the networks assigning IP-adresses to the PCs connected. These PCs will work, no matter which IP has been assigned to them by the DHCP server.

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But I cannot use the command fritz.box, as it has no access to DSL. What do you suggest?

This question of yours seems rather confused. As long as the FB is correctly connected to your PC, you can access the configuration menue via "fritz.box" or "192.168.178.1". This has nothing to do if there is access to DSL or not.
Naturally, to connect the FB to DSL, it is not sufficient to connect it to the PC. You need a connection between FB and Barricade (the latter connected to DSL) or directly from FB to DSL (phone line).
Perhaps there you have a logical problem? The connexion between FB and DSL must necessarily be by cable! WLAN or WiFi works only between FB and PC!
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[olnejean]

"After 2 weeks of asking questions, you did not advance at all. "
That's right. I have never been able to get WiFi working. And If I carry on trying, it is mainly because you seem so sure it will go. Otherwise, the damn thing would have been thrown away long ago...
"You need a connection between FB and Barricade"
Well, that's the problem.
To get a connection between FB and Barricade, FB must be prepared.
And to prepare FB, I need accessing "fritz.box" or "192.168.178.1".

 

[el_valiente]

... I need accessing "fritz.box" or "192.168.178.1"

@olnejean:

This is really easy:
1. The only equipment you need is the FB, a PC and an Ethernet cable
2. Your FB 3270 must be in working condition. If it isn't, make a recover
3. Prepare the PC for LAN network (TCP/IP protocol)
4. Connect the FB via Ethernet to the PC. Use LAN2, LAN3 or LAN4 at the FB
5. Type "fritz.box" or "192.168.178.1" or "169.254.1.1" into your Web browser (e.g. Internet Explorer)
6. The FB configuration menue should appear at your PC screen
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[olnejean]

OK, it worked, ¡ Muchias gracias !
You see, you are "full of the subject", which is totally new for me !
Now, when I shall have modified the IP Adress Pool of the DHCP Server at the Barricade to "192.168.2.70" and the highest one to "192.168.2.79", shall I have to tick "IP-Adresse automatisch über DHCP beziehen", or "IP-Adresse manuell festlegen" ?
With "IP-Adresse manuell festlegen", what value should I use?

 

[el_valiente]

... shall I have to tick "IP-Adresse automatisch über DHCP beziehen", or "IP-Adresse manuell festlegen" ?

@olnejean:

I suppose, you have selected
- Internetzugang über LAN 1
- Vorhandene Internetverbindung im Netzwerk mitbenutzen (IP-Client)

Having done this, the FB looses its own IP-address, it is converted into an IP-client: The IP-address of the FB will be assigned by the Barricade. The FB will be accessible only by typing this new IP-address into the Web browser.

If you select "IP-Adresse automatisch über DHCP beziehen", the IP-address of the FB will be one of the IP-pool (one between 192.168.2.70 - 79). You will not be sure, which one it is, and this makes life more difficult.

For this reason you should tick "IP-Adresse manuell festlegen". You should select "192.168.2.69" as IP-address. The Barricade will assign this IP-address to the FB and you will have the whole IP-pool disponible for other PCs.
With this configuration, the FB will allways have 192.168.2.69 as IP-address, and it can easily be accessed by typing this IP-address into the Web-browser.

Comment: With this configuration, the build-in firewall of the FB is out of function
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[olnejean]

"192.168.2.69"
Are you sure ?
It is jus outside the proposed range "192.168.2.70" to "192.168.2.79"
I suppose your finger slipped and type 69 instead of 79.
And what about "Primärer DNS Server etc"?
See you tomorrow !

 

[el_valiente]

"192.168.2.69" Are you sure ?

Yes, I'm sure!
The manually choosen IP should be outside of the range of the IP-pool.
One can chose any arbitrary IP-address, but 192.168.2.69 is as close as possible to the IP-pool - that's easy to remember.

The other parameters must be as follows:
IP-Adresse = 192.168.2.69
Subnetzmaske = 255.255.255.0
Standard-Gateway = 192.168.2.1
Primärer DNS-Server = 192.168.2.1
Sekundärer DNS-Server = none, empty

I recommend you again to read some information about PC-network basics.
It seems to me, that you don't understand what I am proposing.
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[olnejean]

@el_valiente
FB is now connected to Barricade using the suggested values; the network is fully operational, all PC's with a LAN connection access to Internet; my laptop connects perfectly to WAN but there is still no WiFi access to Internet.
Note that FB refused "Sekundärer DNS-Server = none, empty", so I have left the original value.

 

[el_valiente]

... the network is fully operational, all PC's with a LAN connection access to Internet ...

Congratulations!!! Finally good news !
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... my laptop connects perfectly to WAN but there is still no WiFi access to Internet

What do you mean by that?
WAN = Wide Area Network! I suppose you mean WLAN = Wireless Local Area Network ...

Does your laptop have access to Internet, if connected via cable (LAN) to the FB ?
If so, the laptop must equally have access to Internet via WLAN !
If not, the FB is not correctly integrated into your network.

Try to find out the reason why WLAN doesn't work correctly ...
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... FB refused "Sekundärer DNS-Server = none, empty" ...

I meant "don't type any address, let the space empty" !
something like this: "Sekundärer DNS-Server = ---.---.---.---"
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[olnejean]

Good news, certainly !
And I have had that WiFi working ... for just 10 minutes.
I must have made a mistake, the laptop has access via cable to the network and to Internet, but WLAN does not work anymore...