Deutsche DDI Nummer ohne Adresse in Deutschland

[imagomundi]

from mobile phones?

Certainly a lot more as mobile calls in Germany still are rather expensive. There is no unified tariff for calls from mobile - depends on the mobile network company.

 

[rollo]

Btw, Austria, unlike Germany, enables anybody, regardless of their location, to acquire a local number and have it forwarded to any destination (PSTN or VoiP).

Who told you? AFAIK Austria is more restrictive than Germany. Local VoIP-numbers are bound the physical line.

You could try to register with bluesip.de. The give access to their PBX with a local number. Not sure if they wan't any verification fo your address.

jo

 

[ChrisHaywood]

@rollo

thank you for your answer and recommendation. Obtaining a local DID number in Austria is, as far as I know, much easier than in Germany due to the authorities in Austria being less restrictive than those in Germany (at least according to http://www.terrasip.com/index.php?seite=tarife6&language=en&t_country=gb&lang=en#destination).

If I log in to my Terrasip account I can order an Austrian phone number conveniently within a few minutes, whereas a German address is strictly required when placing an order for a local German number.

Bluesip is one of the few providers out there who offers free local munich numbers; however I was told that you can't forward the number to another SIP destination...?

Regards,

Chris

 

[alvoip]

It is clearly illegal to obtain a local Austrian number the way Terrasip is doing it (only 0720 would be allowed), but who cares about regulations in Austria ;-) Germany is different...

 

[rollo]

Chris, maybe a proxyservice like pbxes can help to combine a (Blue) SIP account with SIP forwarding.

jo

 

[ChrisHaywood]

@alvoip

thank you for your clarification. Well honestly, I didn't even know that the Austrian regulation bodies prohibit persons or legal entities from obtaining local numbers without providing proof of local residency...always good to learn new things (well in that case it's rather unpleasant

@rollo

thanks for the link. The company seems to specialize in bridging organizations with the public telephone network and I'm not sure weather SIP forwarding is possible.

The best thing is probably to use some sort of nominee or shill to obtain a local number and have it then forwarded to my Asterisk server...unfortunately this would also violate some telecommunication laws at least to a certain extent, which, in turn, would also jeopardize the credibility of the business (competitor discovers that number is registered under a shill, files a complaint, etc.)

However, I would be willing to risk it though

Regards,

Chris

 

[dg7feq]

calls to 0180x-numbers are capped at maximum 42ct/min by law. As you can guess now all providers charge 42ct/min ;-)

 

[alvoip]

Well honestly, I didn't even know that the Austrian regulation bodies prohibit persons or legal entities from obtaining local numbers without providing proof of local residency.

That is not the case. It is rather that an Austrian local number has to be technically tied to a physical location in that area code. On the bottom line it means there has to be a physical line (whether POTS or IP). Basically that regulation is meant to protect Telekom Austria by relegating all VoIP subscriptions that do not imitate a POTS line (with all of its restrictions) to the unattractive 0720 number range.

So the Austrian regulations are even more restrictive than Germany's.

 

[ChrisHaywood]

@alvoip

thank your for educating me about Telecom Austria and their monopoly like regulations.

Summarized it's like in Germany: Applying for a local number requires proof of permanent residency. If you can't provide such information you may only apply for a number starting with a Voip prefix (0720 in Austria and 032 in Germany).

Regards,

Chris

 

[Newbie0815]

If you really choose to use the 0180 number ( I think this starts at 3.x cent / minute for the caller) you should also give the customers your californian number:

http://www.teltarif.de/db/res.html?019x=0&kurz=ja&ve=1&takt=61&von=Festnetz&ziel=USA+(haupt)

.. those who can use call by call can place calls for 0.6 cent / minute to your place....

Voip "out" to US numbers is also not very expensive ...

Also your californian address and phone number will distinguish you from scammers ... when dealing with a foreign company I always do a web research and try see where it is located ....

Google streetview might be your friend here ;-)

 

[ChrisHaywood]

@newbie

thanks for the link. I'll either stick to a 0180 or a voip number starting with +32 as these are the only options available to me (a local number would, of course, suit my needs better).

I don't have any problems with providing a local california number (I also have another one for east cost customers), but my experience is that customers usually don't feel comfortable (even if the calling price is cheap) calling foreign numbers. A person calling from Germany may assume that the person picking up the call speaks a different language, etc.

That's the reason why I always try to make things as simple as possible; a German number with support in German for customers calling from the German speaking countries, and numbers in the US with support in English for worldwide customers.

regards,

Chris