Busy On Busy mit 7170 und Sinus 721PA (DECT Telefonanlage)

[feel!free]

Hallo,

hat jemand diese Kombination (oder etwas ähnliches) korrekt am Laufen? Ich habe heute gemerkt, dass Busy-On-Busy hinter der Fritz nicht mehr richtig funktioniert; bilde mir aber ein, dass es in einer früheren Fritz-Firmware (vor .57) noch funktioniert hat.

Folgendes Verhalten beobachte ich:
Am 721PA (=Gigaset SX253) ist "MSN besetzt" ein. Auf MSN1 wird ein (ankommendes) Gespräch geführt.

Ohne Fritzbox:
Gespräche auf MSN2/3 kommen an den freien Mobilteilen durch, auf MSN1 erhält der Anrufer besetzt ==> So soll es sein.

Mit Fritzbox:
[X] Ruf abweisen bei besetzt, [X] Ruf abweisen durch das ISDN Gerät:
Alle MSN erhalten besetzt.

[X] Ruf abweisen bei besetzt, [ ] Ruf abweisen durch das ISDN Gerät:
Alle MSN erhalten besetzt.

[ ] Ruf abweisen bei besetzt, [ ] Ruf abweisen durch das ISDN Gerät:
MSN2/3 kommen an
MSN1 erhält manchmal ein besetzt, manchmal erhält der Anrufer aber auch einen Freiton und wird dann nach wenigen Sekunden wieder "gekickt"


Nach meinem Verständnis müsste sich die Fritzbox mit den Einstellungen
[X] Ruf abweisen bei besetzt, [X] Ruf abweisen durch das ISDN Gerät
so verhalten wie ohne Fritzbox. Leider funktioniert das bei mir nicht.

Kann das jemand bestätigen?

 

[feel!free]

Ich hol das Thema mal wieder ein bisschen hoch:

Gibt es denn irgendjemand, bei dem Busy-On-Busy mit einer an die Fritz angeschlosssenen Telefonanlage wie erwartet funktioniert?

 

[cybermaus]

Well, its not what you want to hear, but I also have issues with the Busy-on-Busy settings on Fritz. I have a 7270 and a Siemens SX255

It all works when all phones are directly connected to Fritz. But the DECT range of Fritz is much less then the SX255. When re-installing the SX255 as DECT transmitter, indeed, I cannot control Busy on Busy. It almost looks as if "Ruf abweisen durch das ISDN Gerät" has no effect.

Unless someone else has a good idea, maybe we should simply report it to AVM?

PS: I tried defining the SX255 to Fritz both as a phone and as a pbx. That too seems to have no effect.

 

[Telefonmännchen]

Busy on busy works great with my Gigaset an my ISDN-phone. The caller only has a short delay (1 sec.) from dialing my number to the busy-tone, but it works. You have to activate the bob-feature and deactivate "Anklopfen" (knocking (?)) for the MSN in all of your devices including any fon or other analogue port of your box or pbx. If only one device rings while a phone-call is active, the bob-feature can't work.


Gruß Telefonmännchen

 

[Gregoire.Favre]

Busy on busy works great with my Gigaset an my ISDN-phone. The caller only has a short delay (1 sec.) from dialing my number to the busy-tone, but it works. You have to activate the bob-feature and deactivate "Anklopfen" (knocking (?)) for the MSN in all of your devices including any fon or other analogue port of your box or pbx. If only one device rings while a phone-call is active, the bob-feature can't work.


Gruß Telefonmännchen

I am sorry to also ask about this here, but as someone managed to make it work, I might just have an answer ?

I have A Swisscom Titel A421 ISDN with 3 DECT phone, two of them have the same MSN.
I have tried, to define my A421 as a PBX, also as a ISDN phone and I also tried to connect directly the 3 DECT phones to the 7270 (all try when the other telephony devices are deleted from the 7270).

The 7270 is connected on the S bus of a NT2ab (which has also a fax connected but with a different MSN that the one I would like bob turned on, maybe I should also connect the fax to the 7270 ?).

When I choose to enable bob on the PBX or the ISDN phone or the 3 DECT it still ring on the other devices unless I choose to unmark the option to let the ISDN lign decide whether it's busy or not, in that case only one call can be taken, which is partialy what I want, because the caller only receive no answer, like the lign is only waiting ???

I have done lots of trial about the #52<Ext>*1*... because I don't understant what the Ext is supposed to mean ?

Now I have no idea what "Anklopfen" (knocking (?) could mean and how (and where) to set it ?

I would be really happy to be able to use bob (that's the reason I buy it) for my first MSN, thank in advance for any help

 

[Telefonmännchen]

The bob-feature can't work with your NT2ab. This device is an terminal adapter to connect analog telephone devices direct to the ISDN line. You have to activate bob in this NT2ab device too. But I'm afraid this is not possible. Or you can try to deactivate the a/b ports (or only the unused port).

To deactivate a port, you have to set all MSN to 0000 0000. If you have a Santis device pic up your on ab1 connected phone and dial * * # 73 # # for the entry code and then 111 0000 0000 # 121 0000 0000 # 131 0000 0000 # 112 0000 0000 # 122 0000 0000 # 132 0000 0000# and the hang up. (or * * # 73 # # 111 0000 0000 - hang up, * * # 73 # # 121 0000 0000 and hang up and so on). Now the ports are deactivated and only the S-Port ist works with a connected ISDN-device (e.g. 7270). Don't forget to connect the fax to the 7270.

Here i've found a user guide and here a second one.

Ext in #52<Ext>*1* means the external MSN. But I'm afraid this code can't help you with your problems. You can progam these features via interface.

"Anklopfen" means: a second call comes in while your'e on your phone, you can hear a "2nd-call-is-waiting-tone" while you're speaking. Now you can switch to the second caller by pressing the "R"-Key (or "R2", depend. on your telephone provider) on your phone. On a fax port you must deactivate this tone.

HTH

Gruß Telefonmännchen

 

[Gregoire.Favre]

Thank you very much,

when I bought the 7270 I thought I should't use the Nt2ab anymore, is that possible ?

I have to found an analog phone in order to try to desactivate the MSN on the nt2ab

Thank you very much for your answer.

 

[Telefonmännchen]

No, its not possible. You have to use the NT2ab to adapt the 2-wire Line from your telephone provider into the 4-wired local ISDN-S0-Bus.

I think to deactivate the a/b-ports is the only solution for your problem. Maybe your provider can send you an NTBA without these a/b-ports. This would be quite the easiest way. In Germany usualy the NT has no a/b-ports (except Arcor, whose costumers sometimes have the same problems).

... no problem

Gruß Telefonmännchen

 

[Gregoire.Favre]

Danke vielmals !!!

Es rockt jetzt !!!

Den Fax habe ich noch am NT2ab (andere MSN) (und die RJ45 Kabel kann nicht am RJ11 von den Fritz verbunden sein).